In a world where words hold the power to shape destinies, where every keystroke can tilt the scales of justice, why settle for a generic keyboard? In today's episode, we are unraveling the enigma behind why legal practitioners deserve a keyboard that's as tailored to their craft as a bespoke suit.

Meet Daniela Semeco, the brilliant mind behind LegalType, where innovation and legal expertise converge. As the Founder and CEO of LegalType, Daniela has harnessed her entrepreneurial spirit and deep understanding of technology to revolutionize the way lawyers and legal professionals interact with their keyboards. With a profound passion for keyboards and a keen eye for detail, Daniela has ingeniously crafted the LegalType mechanical keyboard—a masterpiece tailored exclusively for the legal realm. This remarkable keyboard seamlessly blends functionality and aesthetics, boasting a mesmerizing design that complements the refined tastes of legal specialists.

Join Daniela and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1. What are the top three reasons an attorney needs a keyboard specifically designed for their area of work?

2. What are the top pieces of software and hardware attorneys can use to do the chore of typing easier?

3. With the ongoing technological advances, what are the top three pieces of technology that can be seen as possible replacements for typing keyboard interfaces?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[01:00] Tech Ensemble: Navigating Daniela's Digital Symphony

[08:59] Efficiency Unleashed: The Lawyer's Keyboard Revolution

[13:30] Enhancing Legal Efficiency: Top Tools for Attorneys' Typing Needs

[18:21] Unlocking the Mechanics: A Deeper Look into the Daniela's Keyboard

[22:02] Future Horizons: The Evolution of Typing Interfaces and Beyond

Resources:

Connect with Daniela:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniela-semeco

Website: getlegaltype.com/

Facebook: facebook.com/legaltype

Instagram: instagram.com/getlegaltype

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/showcase/legaltype/

LawNet: directory.lawnext.com/products/legaltype/

Demo video: youtube.com/watch?v=23FI1dKxoJY

ABA Tech Show Startup Alley Video: youtube.com/watch?v=ESvQ-i2HDc0&t=5s

Keyboard collection: youtube.com/watch?v=TAgesxcM31I&t=9s

A picture of Daniel's tech setup during a demo meeting over Zoom: instagram.com/p/CjBluKzPZft/

Hardware mentioned in the conversation:

Legaltype keyboards and keycaps: getlegaltype.com/collections/legaltype-keyboards-and-keycaps

Legal board: legalkeyboards.com/products/legalboard

Logitech Ergo K 860: logitech.com/en-us/products/keyboards/k860-split-ergonomic

Cherry MX Brown switches: cherrymx.de/en/cherry-mx/mx-original/mx-brown

Cherry MX Blue switches: cherrymx.de/en/cherry-mx/mx-original/mx-blue

Transcript:

[00:00:00] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Episode 66, finding the right computer keyboard legal Work. My conversation with legaltype's, creator and inventor, Daniela Semeco.

[00:00:19] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Daniela is a graduate at the University of Savo in France. She's a skilled interpreter with nearly two decades of experience in medical, legal, and business fields. As the c e o and inventor of legal type, Daniela has revolutionized legal technology with the world's first adaptable smart keyboard, specifically designed for lawyers and law students launch in September, 2022.

[00:00:37] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Legal type sets the standard as the first highly customizable keyboard that supports most European languages. The platforms offerings include a programmable mechanical keyboard. A software only solution and a key cap set for existing mechanical keyboard owners. Legal type drastically improves efficiency by facilitating document assembly and automation, thereby saving time and money while enriching the user's writing experience.

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[00:01:07] Welcome Daniela!

[00:01:07] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Daniela, welcome to the podcast. Oh, thank you for having me. I appreciate you being here. And to get things started, please tell us

[00:01:14] Daniela's Current Tech Setup!

[00:01:14] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: what your current tech setup is.

[00:01:16] Daniela Semeco: Well, I would say that I have a pretty scrappy setup. I have a Logitech ThinkPad and my husband and I were both really into keyboards and we really like the keyboard on the Logitech think paddock. We think it's the best keyboard there is in terms of laptop keyboards. I also have a Logitech stream cam, which is really nice because it has a microphone built in that works really well.

[00:01:42] Daniela Semeco: Okay. I have a little Logitech mouse that's Bluetooth. I have several mice actually because my husband has over 600 keyboards. He's quite the collector. And he also has a collection of mice, so I will change them out every once in a while or like when I'm set up for expos exhibits. It's kind of fun to have a wild looking mouse.

[00:02:06] Daniela Semeco: Like I'll show you like one with the big track pad, for example, or vertical mice. Right, right. They're pretty cool, so it's just for fun. What else? I mean, I have an iPad I use a lot because before I made a mechanical keyboard, I invented. An iPad keyboard. Oh, okay. And so I have two iPads, actually. One that has like no data on it.

[00:02:29] Daniela Semeco: It's just for demos. And then this one is an iPad, air Sixth Generation. I have kind of a lot of stuff, and then I use this headset that's like, I can hide it. It just goes on one ear. It's okay. The brand is Embo. Okay. And it's kind of a, I don't know if it's like a real big brand or anything, it's just like a pretty affordable piece.

[00:02:52] Daniela Semeco: But what I like about it is that you don't see the headphones. 'cause I have a sales coach who recommends. Being as natural as possible in front of the camera because it humanizes you more so. And of course

[00:03:03] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: for the cambo on you, of course the listener can't see this, but it hides nicely in your hair. And on the other hand, if you were to look at me perhaps wearing it, I'm bald, so it might stick out just a little bit.

[00:03:17] Daniela Semeco: Yeah. But it's still only one ear. So you can kind of turn your head or. I still like, it bugs me to see the AirPods in people's ears. I find it distracting. Sorry,

[00:03:26] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: I've got the AirPod, Pro Max on my head.

[00:03:28] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: you mentioned you had an iPad, air, what do you use for your phone? I have an iPhone 11. So you are a couple models behind and Oh, and you showed you the pretty picture of your daughter. Oh yeah.

[00:03:40] Daniela Semeco: That's when she was a baby. I still, I've had this screensaver

[00:03:43] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: forever. So for your iPad, do you keep them up to date with the most recent models or like for the iPhone?

[00:03:51] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: I see you've got 11. We're on the 14. I take it you don't see the need to have the most up to date tech. Well,

[00:03:57] Daniela Semeco: when you're testing software, it's good to have several models. And so for example, the iPad, I have like one of the first iPad errors and Okay. That's just so that we can test iOS 12. Gotcha.

[00:04:10] Daniela Semeco: Because once you upgrade your iOS, you can't go back. Right. Gotcha. And so, and then the iOS, I mean the iPhone 11 that I bought mm-hmm. I bought it outright. 'cause we have a family plan with Google phi. Think if we had a family plan with Apple, it would make sense to just keep on renewing your Apple products or leasing them.

[00:04:31] Daniela Semeco: But I just bought it outright and it still works really well. So I had to replace it once with AppleCare. But you know, since it still works fine, it's

[00:04:40] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: okay. So have you found yourself to be at any disadvantage by having the older models running the older software systems? Well,

[00:04:48] Daniela Semeco: , my iPhone 11 is up to date with the latest system for security reasons.

[00:04:53] Daniela Semeco: Okay. So the devices that I use regularly are all up to date. Mm-hmm. And the old devices are just for testing and for demos, and they

[00:05:00] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: have. I'm sorry, forgive me. So you have an old iPad error, or at least the older iOS? Mm-hmm. What about your Windows device? Are those up to date with Windows 11? Is the ThinkPad relatively new?

[00:05:13] Daniela Semeco: The ThinkPad, I have to look because I have like almost exclusively hand-me-downs because my husband gets all this tech. He works at VMware, he is specialized. I don't even know, like what I'm looking at my system right now. I forget which ThinkPad it is. I apologize. No worries. I'm running Windows 10.

[00:05:35] Daniela Semeco: It's not that I'm afraid of Windows 11, but I like Windows 10. Fair enough. And like I said, once you upgrade, you can't go back. So I just wanna make sure I don't upgrade to something that I am gonna hate.

[00:05:46] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Gotcha. No, I understand. And I can respect that. So if I understand correctly, your husband is the one who's created the keyboard.

[00:05:54] Daniela Semeco: He has a keyboard company as well, and that's how we met. Oh, okay. It's very romantic,

[00:05:59] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: so, oh, you, okay. So you did create this keyboard.

[00:06:02] Daniela Semeco: Yes, I'm the inventor, but he's helped me on the tech side. He built the driver.

[00:06:08] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Oh, okay. Okay. Well, if I can ask, before we, we get into the questions, how do two keyboard builders

[00:06:15] Daniela Semeco: meet?

[00:06:15] Daniela Semeco: \ I went to a startup event called Launch Festival or something like that. I met this girl and I was walking around with my iPad, demoing my app, and I told her I've never met anybody who loves keyboards as much as me, and she just happened to be friends with him and he has this huge collection and he's just crazy about keyboards.

[00:06:34] Daniela Semeco: There's this Gizmodo video of him that's like kind of famous where it shows his collection. And we've even been contacted by the Guinness Book of World Records. Oh, wow. Because I think he has the largest collection in the world and we have to document them and yeah, so she introduced us and he went on LinkedIn and upgraded to premium so he could send me a message.

[00:06:56] Daniela Semeco: Cool. And then we met up for lunch in San Francisco. After that. And we talked for keyboards for like two hours straight and it was just mind blowing 'cause he could go on and on about key caps and how they're constructed. 'cause he really works a lot on the hardware side. Now

[00:07:12] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: I gotta ask also, so I assume, I mean keyboards are different than typewriters.

[00:07:17] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Has he had any communications with Tom Hanks, who's a. Collector of typewriters. I

[00:07:23] Daniela Semeco: don't think that he's been directly in contact with Tom Hanks. Mm-hmm. I actually have the app, the Hanks writer. It's an iPad app. It's a third party keyboard called the Hanks Writer. And what special writer? It's really basic.

[00:07:35] Daniela Semeco: It just kind of looks like a typewriter. And when you press the keys, it sounds like a typewriter. It gives you the clicky clap. It makes clicky. There's really nothing special about it except for that the look and it's a little

[00:07:47] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: quirky. Well, I imagine when your daughter learns keyboard, if she happens to learn it in a class typing, formal typing, she's gonna be doing it on sub either computer or an a tablet like your iPad.

[00:07:59] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: You know where back in the day I used an electric typewriter where you had this piece of paper in and five clock,

[00:08:06] Daniela Semeco: but yeah, but we're really careful. She's not allowed to use mobile devices. Not until she turns

[00:08:11] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: six. Ah, okay. Good thing to know. I myself don't have any kids, but I'll certainly take your word on that.

[00:08:16] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Yeah. So let's get into the questions.

[00:08:18] Q1: What are the top three reasons an attorney needs a keyboard specifically designed for their area of work?

[00:08:18] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: What are the top three reasons an attorney needs a keyboard specifically designed for their area of work? Well, like Bob

[00:08:24] Daniela Semeco: Ambrogi said when he reviewed us, he said, until now, there has not been a mechanical keyboard designed for lawyers and legal professionals. And I think there's power in having a keyboard that's made just for you.

[00:08:36] Daniela Semeco: Like we have that section symbol. We have things that lawyers use all the time and you can have like a text expander or ways to make shortcuts, but like lawyers don't have time. Like who wants to sit around programming my macros? I think it's more important to focus on your clients. And so I think that the beauty of the way this works is that you just double click and it'll work.

[00:09:00] Daniela Semeco: It's like a toaster. You don't have to program anything. You just, you can just go and like, it's very intuitive. The section symbols on the s. Are like really predictable. You have the registered trademark on the R and it's, once you learn it, it's almost impossible to forget it. Almost impossible to unlearn it because it feels so natural.

[00:09:22] Daniela Semeco: And so I think that it's, it saves a lot of time and. It's also

[00:09:28] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: super affordable. And so how much is your keyboard today? Right now it's

[00:09:32] Daniela Semeco: on sale for $155. It usually goes for 199. But you think about it, that's a one-time purchase It's not a subscription

[00:09:39] Daniela Semeco: software's included.

[00:09:40] Daniela Semeco: Yes. And we will support the software. As long as you're using your keyboard, can you

[00:09:45] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: use it both on Mac and Windows?

[00:09:47] Daniela Semeco: Right now it's only available for PC Window,

[00:09:51] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: but are you looking to expand into Mac?

[00:09:52] Daniela Semeco: Absolutely. We want it to be like a standard that you can use everywhere you go on any device. Is it Bluetooth or wired?

[00:10:02] Daniela Semeco: So since it's a software solution, it can work on any keyboard you use, whether it's wired or Bluetooth. So you can use the software independently of the keyboard. Okay? Okay. What's nice about the keyboard is that it has that visual. You. You see how the key caps are printed. You can see where the symbols are, like a yen is on the Y, but they're also kind of like really easy to memorize.

[00:10:27] Daniela Semeco: So some people, they just use it on their laptops and they have the manual in front of them. They write notes on the manual. They're perfectly happy using it that way.

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[00:10:46] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Thanks and enjoy.

[00:10:48] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: So for the first question, I think you've given two really good answers. The first being about having accessible special keys right there and the others is of course saving time. Is there any other benefit to having a keyboard design specifically for lawyers?

[00:11:04] Daniela Semeco: I think that if you are using certain symbols hundreds of times a week Right. Then it's really ridiculous to go to Google and copy and paste that. Okay. So I, I'm trying to stop that. And also going into insert special symbol and words is just really tedious sometimes and big time waste. And then you forget what you're writing. Yep. But we also have macros.

[00:11:27] Daniela Semeco: That we have dedicated to Outlook and word because lawyers, they live inside of those programs. Yep. And so on top of the symbols, the uni code symbols, we also have shortcuts where you can like split the screen or turn on track changes. You can accept a change with the press of a button or you can reject it, and that really helps with the strain on the wrists, especially if you use right-handed, if you use the mouse a lot, because I find that one of the things that really irritates.

[00:12:00] Daniela Semeco: People's wrist the most is can be the mouse even more than the keyboard itself. It's all those mouse clicks.

[00:12:06] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: So more physical comfort and less, oh, forgive me, I forgot what the word is. From typing, you get and wrist

[00:12:12] Daniela Semeco: like carpal tunnel. Thank you. Tendonitis.

[00:12:15] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: A carpal tunnel. Forgive me, I could remember.

[00:12:17] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Yeah. Every now and then I got a small, very small twinge of carpal tunnel, but I'm always able to work it through, thankfully, but don't use the word enough, and sometimes you just forget.

[00:12:26] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Well, let's move on to question number two.

[00:12:28] Q#: 2. What are the top pieces of software hardware attorneys can use to make the chore of typing easier?

[00:12:28] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: What are the top pieces of software hardware attorneys can use to make the chore of typing easier?

[00:12:33] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Now, with all due respect, we're gonna push your product to the side because we did cover that, right? Okay. I'm gonna pull three answers from you, if I

[00:12:42] Daniela Semeco: may. Sure. So I met with a few people at the A b A tech show and asked them what they use and what I found is that lawyers, they type a lot. Yes. So if you look on average what a person types, it would blow your mind.

[00:12:55] Daniela Semeco: It's like seven minutes. Throughout the whole day, the average person types for seven minutes, but lawyers don't. They type much more. They type upwards of more than two hours a day. And so the most popular ergonomic keyboard that I heard lawyers are using is the Logitech Ergo K eight 60. Okay. And for some reason I just asked one lawyer after the other and they like all had that keyboard and they loved it.

[00:13:20] Daniela Semeco: And so I think that in terms of ergonomic keyboards, That's like a hot one right now, which would also work with our software, by the way. And then I think any kind of split keyboard is good, but, and then another one, of course is the legal board. Which came out in 2017. And

[00:13:38] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: what's the legal board? I

[00:13:38] Daniela Semeco: haven't heard of that.

[00:13:39] Daniela Semeco: Oh, the legal board. It's a plug and play keyboard, and it's for lawyers and it has some symbols, but the thing is that the U S B standard is very limited because it's using a spec from the nineties, and so this keyboard cannot support Unicode symbols. So like if you want that little cute delta that stands for defendant or pie for plaintiff, this keyboard wouldn't be able to do that.

[00:14:06] Daniela Semeco: But it has a lot of stuff that lawyers use a lot. It's not state specific. It's mostly for litigation and it's really good for I, if you're working federally, I guess. I think that one's pretty good. It's a rubber D keyboard, so you don't have the benefits of the customization that you give a mechanical keyboard.

[00:14:25] Daniela Semeco: Okay. I heard one of your guests mention that you really like mechanical keyboards because there is that element of customization. You can choose which kind of switch you want. You can choose if you want it to be heavy or light or clicky or silent, and it's like a pair of shoes. You don't just have one pair of shoes for certain occasions, you may wanna change your shoes.

[00:14:48] Daniela Semeco: And I think that using the free keyboard that you got with your computer that costs you like zero to $5 is kind of, I think that people can do better than that because it affects their health, it affects all kinds of aspects of their lives, and I think that you're worth buying a nice

[00:15:06] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: keyboard. I agree.

[00:15:07] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: I went, I think, a different direction I got and I. I'm gonna show you, of course the audience, the listeners can't really see this is the Mac Bluetooth keyboard that has the little finger password security lock on it that I just absolutely love because it just makes updating software and logging in so much easier.

[00:15:27] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: But then on the flip side, I know that some people really like those really. Long pressed keyboards like that come with mechanical keyboards just 'cause they like that feel and that motion and that touch. And I personally just love the short distance keyboards because, I don't know, just I never quite got into the mechanical stuff except for the fact when I first learned how to type, which was on a mechanical keyboard, I a real mechanical, electronic typewriter.

[00:15:51] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: And I don't know, I feel less prone to make mistakes, but that's me and everyone has their preferences and. You clearly have a lot of preferences 'cause I know you and your husband have a lot of keyboards. So before Yeah, I mean, I, go ahead. Sorry.

[00:16:05] Daniela Semeco: Oh sure. I was just gonna say, I think that whatever you do, it's good to have like two or three keyboards that you switch off and on from, because when you get carpal tunnel and these types of injuries, that's comes from repetitive movements. Right. And if you change devices, that movement is gonna be slightly different. So you don't get as much of the. Repetitive movement injuries. If you just like every two weeks or every month alternate to a second. You don't even have to have more than two keyboards, but I think it's healthy to switch 'em out.

[00:16:39] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: So which two physical keyboards do you switch between?

[00:16:42] Daniela Semeco: I mostly type on my keyboard. On the legal type. Okay. And then on my laptop, honestly. And that's good enough for me because I'm a typical executive who only types five to seven minutes a day. people, they spend a lot of time reading, clicking on

[00:16:55] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: stuff.

[00:16:56] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Right. I do something similar when I travel. I use my laptop and at work I use my Mac keyboard. But before we go into the third question, please tell us a little more detail about your keyboard, your lawyer's keyboard.

[00:17:09] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Right

[00:17:09] Daniela Semeco: now we have a keyboard that's programmable, so if you buy the actual keyboard, you can actually program the firmware. And people have told me, for example, in California how period. Wanna be able to press function C and Get Period, or California Court of Appeals, things that they type several times, hundreds of times a.

[00:17:34] Daniela Semeco: That's worth programming, so that's really nice that you can put it in program mode and do that. Besides that, our keyboard has brown switches, cherry MX Brown, which is a nice tactile switch and it's not clicky. Okay, and what does that do? And it's also quite light. It's not too heavy, and so it doesn't cause too much strain.

[00:17:56] Daniela Semeco: But people in general, it's one of the most popular switches today, the brown switches, because people like the feel of it and the clickiness, it can be distracting to you or

[00:18:06] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: to other people. Now, just for the listener, I wanna make sure we're clear. A brown switch is

[00:18:12] Daniela Semeco: a brown switch is what is located.

[00:18:16] Daniela Semeco: We'll see there are several colors, right? Right. There's like the cherry, mx, blue, white clears like there. There's a world of. Switches out there and the brown switch has a tactile feel, whether you know it's cherry, MX or a different brand. They have those similar feels and it's just like, it's hard to describe what it feels like.

[00:18:36] Daniela Semeco: Right. I say it feels like butter or

[00:18:38] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: like smooth. Right. But a switch, I'm guessing at the moment is underneath the keyboard that creates the tension between the key and the mechanisms underneath that's attached to the keyboard. Is that correct?

[00:18:51] Daniela Semeco: For example, it's what would be under the key cap.

[00:18:54] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Yes. Okay.

[00:18:55] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Okay. Excellent. So that's what I'm thinking. I didn't expressly. It presses on the switch and then the switch then presses on the hard keyboard itself to send the electronic pulse through to get that particular simple letter out. Exactly. Okay, excellent. I may be a tech geek, but I'm not a keyboard geek, so I don't dunno.

[00:19:13] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: I dunno how the keyboard mechanics truly work. So please explain.

[00:19:17] Daniela Semeco: So with the mechanical keyboard, you have a case. The case can be in plastic or metal. Mm-hmm. Can be all types of really fancy cases. Inside of the case is A P C B, this printed circuit board that has all these little like designs and then the switches.

[00:19:36] Daniela Semeco: They're like little square cutouts in the pc. Where you insert the switches. Now, some mechanical keyboards are adaptable to where you can remove the switches. Some are not. The ones that are removable are called hot swap switches, and then on top of the switches you have your key caps and the key caps.

[00:19:57] Daniela Semeco: They just clip right into the switch and you can remove them. Now what's nice about, for example, if you damage a key, on a mechanical keyboard, right? You could just replace the switch. You don't have to send it in. Right. You don't have to get it repaired. You can make that like tiny little repair on your own.

[00:20:16] Daniela Semeco: Gotcha. There's a world of customization and people love like different colors or there's even like artists and key caps and so it's almost like fashion. It's like keyboard

[00:20:27] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: fashion. Well, I think that sort of leads into our third question.

[00:20:30] Q3: With the ongoing advances in technology, what are the top three pieces in technology do you see as possible replacements for typing keyboard interfaces?

[00:20:30] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: With the ongoing advances in technology, what are the top three pieces in technology do you see as possible replacements for typing keyboard interfaces?

[00:20:38] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Well,

[00:20:39] Daniela Semeco: speech to text is an obvious one. It's been around for a long time and it's gotten really good and that's perfect, especially if you've suffered some type of injury or for some reason have to step away from typing. Or if you are getting carpal tunnel, you need to just rest a little bit. I think, you know, there are a lot of advantages to speech, to text.

[00:20:56] Daniela Semeco: Obviously it can't replace everything because there are moments in which you want to preserve confidentiality and speaking aloud, right? You don't want whatever you're typing to overheard,

[00:21:08] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: especially when a, especially when you're working at a coffee shop kind of thing, or on the road on an airplane, you can't be talking into your computer.

[00:21:15] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: And on top of that, you also have to have typically a good internet signal to make sure that the mechanics of translating your voice into text, Is coming through.

[00:21:26] Daniela Semeco: . Yeah. So I see that the world we're moving into, especially with chat G T four and AI, is that we have this beautiful art artificial intelligence that is drafting a lot of work, but then what the human being needs to go in is go in and do the fine tuning.

[00:21:44] Daniela Semeco: Right, right. Exactly. And so I think that the world is evolving towards. Even it's not have GT document. That's document assembly, but it does then require less typing, right? Yes and I think that we're moving towards a world where you'll have a mix between what's automatic and what's manual. For example, they have these really cool cars now that if there's an object in front of them, they'll slam on the brakes and the car will not crash.

[00:22:17] Daniela Semeco: But imagine if you're in the snow or in heavy rain or ice. There are times where you need the manual function to change gears, and I see like what we do, we let you. Type those symbols that you use all the time, seconds and with muscle memory. And so I think that we're moving towards a world where there will be that balance between tweaking something and finishing it and putting the crossing the T's and dotting the i's.

[00:22:45] Daniela Semeco: And then, oh, go ahead.

[00:22:47] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Oh, I was about to ask for the second one, which I think you were about to go to.

[00:22:50] Daniela Semeco: Oh, I think I just listed two. There's speech to text. There's the world of minor edits and document drafting. Okay. And having artificial and felt intelligence. Write this stuff for you. And then lastly, I would say, Brain computer interfaces.

[00:23:06] Daniela Semeco: Ah, and that's like really out there, like Neuralink. Okay. And there's actually like a device you can implant inside of your brain. Right now it's mostly for people who have suffered paralysis or some type of neural damage because it's, there's always a risk even implanting something in your brain. Like they have to build a robot that can do it because it's really delicate and it's a work in progress.

[00:23:30] Daniela Semeco: So we're, that's like light years ahead maybe. But you know, who knows what's possible,

[00:23:35] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: don't they have the ability to track someone's eye movement and they can type that way? You know what we, speaking of people who suffer from para paralysis of the body, or Lewy body dementia, Lou Gehrig's disease. Yeah.

[00:23:49] Daniela Semeco: There's that type of technology, which is different. That's more like computer vision and it's not invasive. But then there's also the type where you can actually type content that's coming straight outta your brain, onto the page.

[00:24:02] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: We're nowhere near

[00:24:03] Daniela Semeco: there yet. No. It's a work in progress and it'll take many years.

[00:24:06] Daniela Semeco: And who knows if there'll be a demand and if they make it safe enough for everybody. But it's interesting, you know what the future holds.

[00:24:13] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Excellent. Daniela, thank you for sharing and also thank you for being a guest on our podcast today.

[00:24:18] Where you can find Daniela!

[00:24:18] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Where can people find you?

[00:24:19] Daniela Semeco: Our website is get legal type.com.

[00:24:22] Daniela Semeco: Mm-hmm. That's the best place to look at the keyboard. We have demo videos. You can also find me on LinkedIn, Daniella Ecco. I think I'm the only Daniella Ecco. I actually didn't even change my married name because my maiden name is better for ss e o. And. On Instagram, we're at Get Legal Type and Twitter as well.

[00:24:44] Daniela Semeco: On Facebook, we're at legal type

[00:24:46] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: Axel. I'll be sure to have all that in the show notes. And again, I wanna thank you for being a guest today. Thank you so much. Thank you for joining me on this episode of the Tech Savvy Glory Page podcast. Our next episode will be posted in about two weeks. If you have any ideas about a future episode, please contact me at Michael dj.

[00:25:02] Michael D.J. Eisenberg: At the Tech Savvy Lawyer page, have a great day and happy Lauren.

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#66: Choosing a Keyboard for Legal Work. Interview with Daniela Semeco from LegalType